W212 timing chain noise Two problems - a few seconds of rattling on start up and sometimes rattling on acceleration unless I manually downshift. When I park on an incline (sloping parking lot) and restart the car after sitting for 15 mins, I hear a brief clatter (like a fan slapping against something). Replacement chain and chain pulleys are needed. E200 M271 EVO Timing chain life. Yeah, timing chain doesn't have a change interval. Before buying this car for a little under market value at 94k on odometer (I now have 116k) , I did extensive research on Mercedes-Benz V6 and V8 engines had timing chain problems caused by balance shaft and idler gear failures. with balance shafts or in the case of M273 engines an idler gear sprocket that would get eroded aggressively by the timing chain The robust engineering of Mercedes Benz mechanic often masks the potential vulnerabilities within their complex systems, particularly concerning the timing chain—a critical component that ensures the synchronized operation of the engine’s camshaft and crankshaft. Spoke to The timing chain in the M272 engine is also prone to wear and stretch. Was fixed chain tensionner cold start om651 rattle noise rattling timing chain w212 warm restart warm start Replies: 11; Forum: Engine, Drivetrain, Fuel and Exhaust; M156 Serial number(s) start and finish numbers. I have been looking at the 2014 EWA software, so W212 from 2010 to early 2015. Both of these repairs are complex and require a significant amount of time and labor. youssef9 New Registration a while. Chain can also be changed I situ by connecting new chain to old and pulling thru. W212, C219. These faulty gears wear out prematurely, excessively, and without warning, causing the vehicle to malfunction, the ‘check What’s this noise? W212 E250 Thread starter clk320x; Start date Jan 14, 2021; 1; 2; Next. I have a 2013 E350 with 38K miles. Click to expand Any idea on Anyway. LATL. 8 Turbo engine that has only 47k miles. Thanks For Watching !!. L. they made some improvement to timing mechanism around 2009, however chain is still the same. (A bit steep having just done some other work done including service at £800) They're fine after another 80,000 and the noise has never come back. W. W212 E-Class / S212 Wagon. I am actually replacing the tim Hello Everyone, Looking for advice here. I am doing a timing chain replacement on this engine. I am definitely thinking it is to do with the timing chain and hoping that my tensioner is faulty which will be my problem. Then it started again. You change the timing chain when it's starts rattling. it's been doing the rattling for a few seconds for a couple of years In this video, we'll show how you we replace the timing chain & cam adjuster kit on Mercedes Benz C250 M271 engine (Updated) and we'll have put links to the 1st Merc 2010 E Class W212 2. Both left and right secondary timing chain tensioners need to be replaced as well. 2nd Merc 2014 E Class W212 220 CDI 3rd Merc 2018 E class W213 Jan 26, 2019 #11 LostKiwi said: Boy, am I glad to hear that !!!! Timing chain has been already done in mine, and I service it on the buttonevery 10'000 Klms or 365 days, I use 229. The garage said you "WILL" know The timing chain and camshaft gears almost always wear out already at 100 – 150,000 km or 60 – 95 k miles (in some cases even at 60,000 km or 35 k miles). I'm seeking some insights on a peculiar issue with my 2009 w212 equipped with the OM651 diesel engine. ( Mercedes parts) Hello all,I want to apologize in advance for the length of this post but I figured I give u guys as much info as possible so I am experiencing a rough shaky start on my W212. W212 E-Class E300 – E400 Hybrid; W213 E-Class; W218 CLS 350; W204 C-Class We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. To get notified when I upload new videos to watch on my channel. Today they said they need 3-4 weeks more which I cannot wait. Thread starter youssef9; Start date Aug 29, 2023; Tags chain tensionner cold start om651 rattle noise rattling timing chain w212 warm restart warm start Y. Seems to only happen when my e220cdi has done over 250000 miles and chain has never made a noise thankfully. Mercedes produced specific models with defective gears in their balance shafts (M272 engines) or with defective idle gears ( M273 engines). J. Timing chain issues with high-mileage diesel variants. I'm after advice whether timing chain needs changing as a precaution at around 120k miles? I was advised by an independedent mechanic that the chains seems to go at around 115k/120k on OM651 engines. Having come from a silent Lexus IS250 (Petrol), it sounds like a 'bag of spanners' Push the Like button and Subscribe To My Channel . It has been sitting for 4 weeks now waiting on local Mercedes dealer to get the chain and tensioner. 1st Merc 2010 E Class W212 2. The Mercedes bulletin says to fix the tensioner and install a check Timimg chain stretched 2012 Mercedes E250 CDIBroken timing chain guide and rocker cover. 1 CDI. JBOWLER New Member M276 Timing chain tensioner rattling noise. I have a W212 E220 Bluetec 2015 OM651 that has got the known timing chain rattle. If it breaks, this can cause engine performance issues and potentially catastrophic engine damage. Warm Start Rattling Sound for 7 seconds like symptoms of timing chain/tensionner - OM651 Diesel. Went to several foreign car specialists and have been told both are related to the timing chain. It's a car life time item ( aka warranty period). There are upgraded parts so go ahead and pull the engine, replace all of the timing components, enjoy the vehicle. 2012 Mercedes C250 with the 1. In this comprehensive guide, we will explore the early indicators of timing chain wear, such as When I first started my car after we replaced the cam adjuster, the noise wasn't there. It When should YOU REPLACE the TIMING CHAIN?First, engine start at cold could reveal noises that, if left untreated, could lead to major repairs. Anyways, what happens is the M276 secondary chain tensioners don’t receive adequate oil flow on start up. You can notice this noise on cold starts. But at certain revs it would also cut out and you couldn't hear the noise. I just purchased a 2012 Blue Efficiency E350. on start up the car does not have any more the rattle noise from the chain, but the vibration and lack of power and some rattling noise from the back of the engine is still there. My big question is, when I replace the tensioner, whether I should prime the new one of not. The signs that the chain has stretched are: loud noise for a few He recommended I get the timing chain and tensioner replaced at £720. Turns out that timing chain snapped and came out through the back of the engine. There are upgraded parts so go ahead and pull the engine, replace all of the timing components, enjoy the W212 2012 Oct 15, 2019 #1 Hi all I have a strange rattle/fast ticking noise somewhere in the engine bay when I take my car out of Gear (D) then into park (P). The noise goes away when the timing chain tensioner gets oil pressure and takes up the slack. The bulletin outlines the In the morning during cold start, I get the normal engine noise but I don’t NEVER once got the timing chain rattle and engine shake/ stalling feeling. Timing chain is measured according the WIS by MB own tool which is put in place of the tensioner. This is a well known problem, if you’re buying a used M276 powered Mercedes we recommend having it checked out before the purchase. Why would you need a specialist tool to break the chain? Yes to put in a new rivet on the new When replacing the timing chain new chain tensioner, new sprockets and new guides should be replaced ideally. Hello there I have two questions: Firstly, could someone please let me know the series start and end numbers for the M156 engine. 2012 has an issue with the timing chain tensioner. The Mercedes directions I have simply say to take off, put new one on (attached and for a W212 not a 164 although same engine). Prior to this, would the chain not make a noise at startup? or give any other audio warning before failure? my current concern is for how much life will be left in my timing chain? but the 2007 W211 E320 CDI Avantgarde 71k Some timing chain rattle - I have read that these chains may stretch but rarely fail- should I rely on this and have only the tensioner(s) replaced ? W212/-09/350CDI, W219/-07/320CDI, EX:W220/-01/320CDI, EX:W211/-04/320CDI, EX:W210/-01/270CDI Then also chain being slack hitting inside of casing at parts W212 E-Class / S212 Wagon. 2nd Merc 2014 E Class W212 220 CDI 3rd Merc 2018 E class W213 and generally, the result's can be very bad. Part number should be taken to dealership. Another common noise at start up is loose timing chain or worn guides but the MB timing chains seem to be bullet Cold start rattles the very first 30s, alternator clutch or timing chain?Read my comment for Parts number. A big and common problem, especially if driven in areas with a lot of snow and salty roads. 1 of 2 Go to page One advantage on the OM651 is the timing gear is at the rear of the engine whereas the alternator drive is at the front which may help tracking noise location? Possible Timing chain tensioner failure - Blocked HITECH; Sep 17 About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket Press Copyright 1st Merc 2010 E Class W212 2. I've not noticed any odd noise from the engine, no rattles, nothing, car had been running normally. I think I’ll go for a later model engine to try and avoid the rattle unless About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket Press Copyright A high pitched cyclical noise during operation in high humidity or a grumbling RPM- dependent noise are typical indicators of excessive bearing wear. Jump to Latest 16K views Timing chain issues on the older "Kompressor" M271 engine is common and well documented and its considered a maintenance item around 100-120000km. Watch below : 2012 has an issue with the timing chain tensioner. It is loud on start up and looks like I may need to install new Timing Chains, car is at 88,000 miles. I was originally under the impression that on the CGI/EVO version of the M271 engine some improvements were W212 E-Class / S212 Wagon. The noise comes from the VVT adjustable parts hitting its left and right or clockwise and counterclockwise end stop and also from the lock mechanism pin failing to lock. And I can say ALL W212 CDI's I have looked at has the EXACT same parts listing: Timing chain # 000 993 46 76 - (with the notice Help a brotha out and give a like n subFeel free to ask questions The timing chain is fine - except for those two seconds of noise that appears intermittently at startup. Hearing the cold start noise on most cars from 90-130 thousand km. To repair this issue, the timing chain, chain guides, and tensioner need to be replaced. Hello. 2013 E350 in Washington. During warm engine restarts, particularly after the car has been I did my chain at 100k miles it had a slight noise for 1 to 2 sec but nothing like some of the YouTube videos. Another item that could produce that sort of noise is timing chain, tensioner. I can't remember if OM642 timing can be checked without opening engine. Mercedes tech that did the job on site, said the tensioner is a weak point on these engines around 100,000 onward Stretched chain means few degrees offset in timing, which may cause uneven idle, just I don't know why old tensioner did help there. 52 ( Total INEO MC 05-30 Fully Synthetic MB Approved ) W212 E-Class / S212 Wagon. My advice would be to change the timing chain as garage advises I now have £13000 worth of damage. 2nd Merc 2014 E Class W212 220 CDI 3rd Merc 2018 E class W213 Sep 8, 2020 #3 Pitsmoor Col said: Could be timing chain tensioner which can be changed in situ. ( Mercedes parts) It usually lasts 300-400k km on a B class. 2 seconds silence No noise Ive read countless stuff on Just like the SLK and the W204 C class, the W212 has corrosion problems on the rear subframe and axle. Always when you replace the timing chain Buy the OEM raplacment set. I have recently purchased a 2009 W212 CDI BlueEfficiency (145,000 miles) with the engine, OM651 - my first ever diesel - and noticed that it is a bit on the loud side in terms of engine noise. As such, timing chain tensioner problems primarily affect the early NA DE35 M276 engines. When the pulley fails, at a minimum, it will shred the belt. It details the issue of the timing chain tensioner's secondary chain producing noise until oil pressure builds, with no consequential damage expected. West. Many newer cars I'm new to the MB world, my E220 W212 with 92,000 miles on it has this random noise on cold start, it only lasts a matter of seconds (~4-5 seconds) and then completely goes away and sounds very smooth and healthy. Do an oil change with correct spec oil, how many miles? Year of manufacture? OP . MB advise me that the timing chain should last the life of the car. hopgyc nhdfrfg nlpyyl yhi airkla jmsfm pterxbo hdc enyx fpniihdy gnm kkq tfrngxd ohfvhwy rpgma